Ek Mutthi Aasman 3rd June 2014 Written Update

℘ɧơɛŋıҳ

June 03, 16:06 Reply

Kris , I’m well aware of the laws within my country , but I don’t know much about it as it pertains to India .
I have never seen any civil marriages on any serial b4 . All Hindu weddings have included a pundit and a small ceremony .
India is a bit of a pseudo-secular country . Although it has declared itself to be secular , it gives the impression that the religious rules are adhered to as a priority over the civil laws . Hence my confusion .

AR
June 03, 16:12

Hi Phoenix,
Purvi/onir marriage was a court marriage.
Kris
June 03, 16:14

I understand,
In India, when a person marries in a civil ceremony it is usually not accepted or acknowledged as a real marriage.
I know of quite a few people that it has happened to.
Even if they got married in a different country under that country’s laws and not under the Hindu ceremony, it is not acknowledged by the family etc.
So that is good reason for Kamla not to accept Raghav and Paakhi’s marriage, but her problem is, she wants that marriage to succeed, whether it is acknowledged religiously or not. she is hell bent on getting Paakhi what Paakhi wants.
Kris
June 03, 16:16

Suni they are very selective and use their laws conveniently.
℘ɧơɛŋıҳ
June 03, 16:21

Thanx AR 🙂 , I didn’t follow that show too much .
devya
June 03, 16:42

Exactly Kris,kamla interest is to see raghav n pakhi marriage become a meaningful one.

Kris

June 03, 15:56 Reply

Suni, in our country, to first have a civil marriage, one must post banns, at least two weeks before the marriage is to take place. If banns are not posted, you cannot have the marriage. Then there must be two witnesses to this marriage, one from the bride side and one from the groom’s. If there are not witnesses, no marriage can take place.
Also, it is called a civil marriage and there’s no religion or ceremony attached to such marriages.
So not sure in India how it is don, but, it was introduced in both these countries by the britishers. Its the english laws that are followed in both our countries.
But in tv land I notice they interpret the laws according to their whims and fancies,
Even religion, if you think you can get the religious part of Hindu culture through these shows, think again, they ulta, wrong side, not really what it is. They use their limited knowledge and twisted interpretations of the Hindu religion in these serials.
Now someone from india was telling me that in the city, most homes do not have the mandir section as shown in these shows.
in Mumbai, people don’t have mandirs they don’t attend etc.
Night clubs dominate the cities and religion is not there.
Well something like that, that person went on in detail about the film industry and the religious part.
When he came here and saw so many Hindus and how we practice our religion, is a lot more than the Indians do in the city,
in the city the religious part of the culture is just a big show.

℘ɧơɛŋıҳ
June 03, 16:20

There are 28 states and a population of an estimated 1.237 billion people .
As with all places , there will never be all good .
I remember Zac had once told me that his mom has a prayer every morning like the way we see on these serials sometimes . A friend once told me that Dewali is the wrong spelling and it is in fact Divali , he took even the spelling seriously . 🙂
Paige S
June 03, 19:36

Wow…this is interesting info

moonlight

June 03, 15:43 Reply

pakhi is the real daughter they got exchange

angel
June 03, 15:58

i second that
devya
June 03, 17:22

No doubt my dear

Kris

June 03, 15:34 Reply

Suni, when yo do a court marriage, it is called a civil marriage and the placing of sindoor is irrelevant, it is not required in a civil marriage. It was not a Hindu marriage.
All the arguments about Raghav Paakhi marriage, I have been saying all along, a marriage is not a marriage just by signing a paper, all the elements together makes a Hindu marriage.
Whereas a civil marriage is not IS NOT a Hindu marriage.
So there was no need for the placing of sindoor as it is only a Hindu thing and the civil proceedings are free of any religion. It is neutral.
Suni I thought you knew this? 😉

Kris
June 03, 15:40

Paige, I am somewhat against revenge, in that, Raghav don’t need to go out of his way and hurt the ones he love in order to extract revenge. That is long time thing,
by marrying Kalpi alone would have given the Kapoors heart attack, then he and Kalpi together ruin the Kapoors business wise and leave them on the streets, but of course, it would be done with tact and finesse, not the way Raghav is doing it. Because even Kalpi herself want to extract some sort of revenge from the Kapoors.
Remember how every morning she would go in front their building and her dream was one day to own it.
whateverr happened to that???? like the writers forget they had big plans for Kalpi???? or would this scenario push her to accomplish that???
M@hi
June 03, 15:45

Yes Kris! And that’s why even I am saying it would be like fornification if they were intimate even though they got married in court.
Kris
June 03, 15:47

Yes Mahi,
But it’s good that (well we hope) it will not happen.
angel
June 03, 15:56

civil marriage does not need sindoor..i’ll give you that..but does applying sindoor alone on a person’s head count as a marriage?….i don’t believe so..along with the sindoor there are other things, other rituals that are necessary but were not present there…

if raghav really loved Kalpi he would’ve chosen her over revenge but he didn’t…

Paige S

June 03, 15:22 Reply

I think I want to stick to this revenge theme which says: “I am going to hurt you in the same way you hurt me ..or even worse.”
So I am going to look at this story from the revenge point. Yes, revenge is marry Paaki, get back everything that is ours, divorce her, and marry the girl you love. If that is your plot for this revenge, then I am willing to give the writers a chance to develop it. This is what the story is. And I am for this revenge. I have been thinking that there are too many things in this serial which makes it unfair to judge it morally. We must not forget this serial is about revenge. A “revenge” will not take the moral route. Like i said when there is a mixture of real and fiction in the serial, I have to assess that serial within the perimeters the creators set and not within the perimeters of the real world. They are afterall, telling a story in a world they create. if i assess it, it must be done on what they (the writers) give to me.

I really want to see what these writers are doing. I will end up exhausting myself with real vs. fake marriage and miss the essence of the story. Who knows what the writers are coming with next?

So if the writers make the characters annoying, complex, having evil tendencies, etc…I will accept it. From now on, I am going to accept Kamla for what the writers make her to be (a good human being who is favoring another girl more than her daughter and who can get on your nerves); I’m going to accept Raghav for what the writers make him out to be (a man with a deep thirst for revenge and suffering because he is torn between love and revenge); Kalpi (a down-trodden damsel caught between her family and her love for this man on revenge); Gauri (who is thirsty to the highest for revenge because of her murdered husband), etc. Kamla as she is adds interest and intricacies to this serial, whether we like her or not. Raghav adds interest. Gauri’s thirst for revenge adds interest. And I do want to see how it plays out with each of these characters.

I want the writers to tell me a story of all these intriquing characters. I want to see their ups and downs, their struggles, their opposition to each other, their conflicts, the next action they take, how they entangle themselves in situations and how they get themselves out, etc.

I just don’t want to lose this story with analyses on morality when, in hindsight, it would be wrong of me to used morality on everything in this serial. In almost every single movie and serial, both Indian and foreign, there has never been full morality. Our world is the case. there is immorality in the courts, hospitals, schools, police station. It’s the same here. SO i thought today, am i going overboard in assessing this show on moral grounds? When the writers never intended it to be moral in every sense, but rather they just want to tell a story?

true, i don’t agree with everything the writers put in and portray but they are telling their story.( though I really wat them to lay off the marriage thing). I read a Danielle Steele book once (I think it was hers) where a father and prominent lawyer raped his own daughter for several years after his wife was stricken with cancer. he would beat his wife and then to satisfy himself, the girl had to be used with full knowledge of her ill-mother. I couldn’t get back to Steele and say “hey I don’t like what you wrote there. that character isn’t moral. you are crazy..etc.” I mean things like these would get me work up when you read it, but its all part of the story telling. And it was intended to invoke a reaction from the reader. I accepted what she wrote because that was a stepping stone to how she developed the story even further. And she ended up telling a very good story in the end. But it was through a web of right and wrong actions, moral and immoral actions, by all characters good and bad. I think I want to give EMA that chance to do the same.

℘ℏöḙn̛i̵ҳ
June 03, 19:27

I wish you good luck dear 🙂 . ..
These writers don’t usually stick to the straight and narrow path and when they deviate so drastically they usually end up losing their followers .
Paige S
June 03, 19:37

i know…hence I might as well flow with them for a while and see which direction they are taking me: whether somewhere good or over the waterfall…

noor

June 03, 14:54 Reply

Guys u should all watch Baawre a new show on life OK it seems really nice an I feel it has a lot of potential if people watch it so guys go watch Baawre!!!!!

wendira

June 03, 14:54 Reply

I think it’s horrible and very selfish of both Kamla and Gaur to threaten suicide if their children don’t do as they wish. Emotional blackmail at its worse!!!!

℘ɧơɛŋıҳ
June 03, 15:09

Please throw in the intended cliff diver Raghav 🙂 .

He told Sammy that he would kill himself if Kalpi didn’t come .

Blackmail all round and poor Kalpi at the centre of this debacle .
devya
June 03, 17:11

Lol,Phoenix I think the talk of committing suicide for the 3 of them is to get the attention they think they deserve. All 3 of them r selfish self center n HEARTLESS people .
They r fully aware that their act of taking revenge is causing so much pain,unhappiness n hurt yet gouri is blackmailing raghav,raghav is blackmailing kalpi n Kamla is blackmailing KALPI ALSO.
I think they are probably doing so with the intention to see who will be the winner for achieving their individual goal

ALL r emotional blackmailers,who want to fulfil their selfish DESIRE hurting kalpi the most. Kalpi is so unfortunate to have a beast for a mother. I know mother normally take position in their daughter’s life to be their best friend,is open to any conversation to lend listening ears,give advice,but kamla is the total opposite to those traits. Kalpi is left alone to figure out everything ,no one to tell her heart suffering to,she have to cry in silence to God ONLY..She have to be strong to survive the hurt she is going through alone. I pity HER.
devya
June 03, 17:45

I think for the 3 of them Suicide was the simplest way of getting attention n sympathy …only pakhin n kalpi r bearing their pains with no suicidal attempt. The 3 of them r weak n don’t HAVE believe in themselves.revenge n conquering is their goal n they got blinded to any other aspects.
℘ℏöḙn̛i̵ҳ
June 03, 17:50

I couldn’t agree with you more Devya 🙂 . ..
Kalpi tries her best to please everyone but herself .
I think the girl never had a selfish thought or action in her life .
Raghav is wealthy , but he has to come better , than what he’s doing at present , to be able to afford this gem called Kalpi .
She deserves so much better than this . I love the way Vithal feels for her , I’m sorry that he can’t help her with this new situation .
She’s really all alone now , but she has her faith and God .
℘ℏöḙn̛i̵ҳ
June 03, 17:52

You’re so correct here Devya , that’s a very good point .
The two victims in this situation are somehow keeping themselves away from such dark thoughts . Kudos for them both for having such strength . … .
devya
June 03, 18:08

Phoenix,u r right my dear,kamla knows why she don’t want to reveal what happened with kalpi……She knows vithal would probably be supportive of kalpi n she may be compelled to let go her interest from pakhi n be supportive to kalpi ALSO..so she prefers to undermine the truth about raghav love for kalpi n continue to support pakhi n be unconcerned about kalpi pain. Kalpi is left alone but as u rightly said she have her beliefs in God n SHE is a strong girl to brace all the storms. Let HOPE after her darkness a silver lining appear for her.
℘ℏöḙn̛i̵ҳ
June 03, 18:49

Yep , let’s hope 🙂 . ..

Paige S

June 03, 14:50 Reply

I was thinking about Raghav’s words to Paaki before their so-called “marriage”. He stressed “no rituals, no ceremony, no nothing” just signature. I thought to myself then, that he knows why he wanted it that way. He doesn’t love this girl nor does he intend to spend his life with her. Raghav must have known what constituted a real marriage in his culture. There must be a reason the writer put this in, unless the writers intention is bring sheer perversion. I am trying not to believe the latter.

Then we see Raghav putting sindoor on Kalpi. He had no intention of doing so but was cornered when asked for an assurance that he will indeed marry Kalpi after 1 year. So Raghav gave Kalpi that assurance by putting on the sindoor. In my research I found: “The sindoor is first applied to the woman by her husband on the day of her wedding and is called as Sindoor Dana ceremony. After this time she must apply this every day herself in the parting of her hairline.”

Therefore, Raghav made Kalpi his wife up to a certain point. Please understand where I am coming from. Kalpi wants assurance he will marry her, that a future wedding between the two will take place at a certain time. Raghav puts sindoor on her because the recognition is your husband is the one to FIRST put sindoor on you and afterwards, you put it on yourself. What Raghav did there was to indicate to Kalpi that I am your husband in truth and will therefore marry you proper with all the right ceremonies etc at the right time. This sindoor is an indication that I will fulfill and complete all rituals and my duty towards you at the right time. And if you listened carefully to his dialogues last night, this is EXACTLY what he said. This application of sindoor is just an indication of my relationship with you and I will complete it after 1 year. In Paaki’s case, he did NOT put any sindoor on her. Since a husband is the first person to do so, then Raghav is not Paaki’s husband. Moreover, like Kalpi, there was no ceremony that makes that marriage complete. What made me say this? Read what I found:

“Hindu traditions are ancient and eternal too. But the Indians fail to recognize our rich traditions…Marriage is not a celebration of a ceremony. Marriage is not all about exchange of rings or garlands. It’s all about a process of promising each other for leading a conjugal life. We never try to find the meaning of mantras chant by Purohits during the marriage process. These days, we just care for photos and videos and hardly pay any attention to the mantras, chant by purohits, since we feel it as the headache of purohit”

The above is worth pondering over.

“A Hindu marriage joins two individuals for life, so that they can pursue dharma (duty), artha (possessions), kama (physical desires), and moksha (ultimate spiritual release) together. Hindu wedding ceremony at its core is essentially a Vedic yajna (a fire-sacrifice)”
“The sanctity of marriage is being lost. The culture is polluted by the adopted cultures. ..The courts too becoming parties in polluting our cultures with the recent pronouncements legitimizing the practice of living together, marriage between homos/lesbians etc. There are hundreds and thousands of cases piled in different courts desperately looking for their turn to get justice, the courts are becoming very passionate these days to pronounce judgements on silly issues of this kind ignoring the cases which deserve their full attention.”
“The process of marriage largely packed with vedic mantras (chanted by purohits on behalf of bride and groom) is more of promises and faiths reposed on each other in the holy presence of Agni (fire).”

I researched further and it is stated that:
“Marriage ceremony proper
• Sacred Fire Ceremony
• Solemn vows and joining hands
• Stone-stepping ceremony
• Fried-rice (popcorn) offered as oblations into the sacred Fire.
• Marriage knot symbolised by tying one end of the groom’s scarf with the bride’s dress.
• Walking around the Sacred Fire taking holy vows.
• The ceremony of Seven steps

“Homam (Holy fire) The holy fire, a great protection against evil, is believed to be a messenger and mediator between God and human. This fire acts as an eternal witness to marriage. The bride and groom pledge and declare to all those present that they have accepted one another voluntarily. Holding each other’s hands, the couple takes seven steps, symbolic of the seven marital vows, around the sacred fire. “

Raghav and Kapli would have known what constitutes a real marriage and so do the writers. Because if you recall, during Kalpi’s wedding preparation, Kapli imagined she and Raghav HOLDING hands and going around the fire. A proper ceremony was being shown. That says something. They all know what makes a real marriage– and what sham of a marriage is.

Raghav did no such thing with Paaki (i.e. any of the ceremony above said to constittue a real marriage). Therefore, he doesn’t have a true marriage with Paaki. ALSO, He didn’t do the same with Kalpi, so he doesn’t have a full marriage with Kalpi either. In light of the information and the seriousness and sacredness of the Hindu culture on marriage, won’t it suffice to say that Raghav is in a true relationship with Kalpi and the sindoor was a powerful and strong indication symbolically that he will marry her proper (as required by Hinduism and all the steps involved after a year)?. I think that is what Raghav did: he assured Kalpi strongly and powerfully before his god that he will marry her.

Since Raghav never did any of the above with Paaki he doesn’t have a real marriage with the girl. So largely he is just in a complicated mess by not really married to either girl. But indeed , pledged strongly to marry Kalpi after his task is completed. Complicated? Yes. Smart? Very much!

M@hi
June 03, 14:56

You know Paige after I saw Raghav and Pakhi in the wedding attire I was shocked but after the FB of the court scenes I was relieved.

I think the writers didn’t include any rituals for them because lots of people would be against Ragna when she plans to let them marry them if there were rituals involved. That’s the first thing that came to my mind. I even scrutinised Pakhi to see if she was wearing sindoor.
M@hi
June 03, 14:57

I’m hurriedly writing. Please ignore my errors people 🙂
℘ɧơɛŋıҳ
June 03, 15:10

Paige , I thought this was a new update 😆 , but it’s longer 😀 . ..
Paige S
June 03, 15:25

lol 😀
sorry about the length 🙂
rekha
June 03, 15:28

Please please send this to Ekta Kapoor so that she gets educated a bit…she makes a mockery of marraige in PR
angel
June 03, 18:43

thanks Paige s for this piece of information…..it was really delivering and rekha is right…Ekta Kapoor should view this info
℘ℏöḙn̛i̵ҳ
June 03, 19:23

Paige , the best wedding ritual I ever saw, enacted on a serial , was at the beginning of Punar Vivah 1 . The Mittals are awesome storytellers and they pay attention to minor details where rituals are concerned . I really wish that the EMA fans could have found satisfaction in a beautiful wedding ceremony with their beloved Jodi of Raghav and Kalpana . I don’t like the way that the fans have been cheated and I really hope , for yours and their sake , that things are set right very soon by these befuddled creatives . ..
Paige S
June 03, 20:07

Thank you very much Phoenix….I hope the writers clear up this mess. The writers are really getting to me. Do you remember we had dicussed the need for details? This is one time we need details as to what is going on. I need to know what these writers are up to.

℘ɧơɛŋıҳ

June 03, 14:42 Reply

I really was hoping to see Vithal’s and Pakiya’s reaction to this ” marriage ” .

But , I guess the writers didn’t want to have to write a death scene for Raghav 😐 . .

M@hi
June 03, 14:59

Lol, you’re right on that. Vitthal and Pakiya would have been charged for murder.
angel
June 03, 15:29

LOL nice one phoenix….i was really looking forward to their reaction to this marriage too….oh well some other time
Kris
June 03, 15:30

😀 hahahaha, hence the reason for the secrecy
devya
June 03, 17:18

Omg Phoenix, u right vithal n pakhiya would have gone hunting. Down raghav n give him double dose Of what he had before lol.

Paige S

June 03, 14:10 Reply

Saw this online:

“In Hinduism, marriage is followed by traditional rituals for consummation. In fact, marriage is not considered complete or valid until consummation.”

Therefore, Raghav does not have a valid marriage with Paaki base on this. I guess he knows why he applied the sindoor to Kalpi in the presence of the god at the temple and took vows for Kalpi. That Kalpi is his real wife.

℘ɧơɛŋıҳ
June 03, 14:37

Raghav would have also placed sindoor on Pakhi’s head .
The sindoor is sited as a symbol of love .
Raghav made promises to be there in every way to Pakhi hence he became her legal husband . A lot of people don’t realize , but marriage is also a binding contract .

He has a wife who he won’t sleep with a mistress who he loves but can’t marry 😐 .
I was of the opinion that the revenge plan was supposed to be against the Kapoors and not against himself .
M@hi
June 03, 14:51

We don’t know if Sindoor was applied in the case of Pakhi. When they reached the chowl even though Pakhi was in a bridal attire there was no Sindoor. I can remember scrutinising her to see if there was any.
Paige S
June 03, 14:51

There is no indication he put sindoor on Paaki.
Paige S
June 03, 14:53

Me too. I scrutinised her, believe me! I did. No garland either. They came in different vehicles.
℘ɧơɛŋıҳ
June 03, 15:03

Then how did they marry ?
The application of sindoor is part of the ritual .
℘ɧơɛŋıҳ
June 03, 15:05

These are details that were conveniently left out by theses cvs .
M@hi
June 03, 15:08

We didn’t see rituals Phoenix. Its like going to court with a witness or two witnesses signing papers in the presence of the officers there. Don’t know a whole lot about it.
M@hi
June 03, 15:11

But yes you’re right. If they so wish one fine day we will see another FB of rituals lol. Depends on which way they plan on taking the story.
℘ɧơɛŋıҳ
June 03, 15:16

Hmm , but they are Hindus and even court weddings need to follow certain guidelines for the different religious beliefs .
Pakhi has the right to wear sindoor though .

It gets more ridiculous the more I think about this stupid scenario created by these writers .
Figuring this out is like being on some weird game show called ” who’s his wife ” 🙄 .
Paige S
June 03, 15:26

lol….but it’s true. He never put sindoor on Paaki. they just sign papers.
devya
June 03, 17:28

Exactly friends,there wAs no garlands, no sindoor,just the ring. However pakhi is wearing sindoor..I don’t KNOW if she fill it herself lol. But is meaningless doing so..

Kris

June 03, 13:47 Reply

Also with regard this marriage with Raghav and Paakhi, to say Indian people would stick to their marriage no matter what, they will stand by their husbands. This situation is so different, as I have been saying, it is not just black and white, or a yes or a no. It is much more complicated.
It is not as if the marriage was consummated, or she is pregnant.
That kind of thinking was old school, long ago, now people marry willingly, have children and still divorces because they not happy with each other. I am talking about indians, hindus, in india today are doing that. So that reasoning is no applicable to this case. they are very modern people.
I admit Kamla is very primitive in her thinking by making Paakhi stick to the marriage. but Paakhi is a modern type girl, she knows differently, but then again Paakhi so badly want to be Mrs. Raghav Singhania and is further being misled by Kamla.
This marriage did not get the blessings or approvals of elders and those in society, It therefore cannot be considered morally to be a marriage signed sealed and delivered, it is not written or casted in stone that it must be.
It can be changed Paakhi is young and has her entire life ahead of her, it is not the end of the road, the end of the line, life does not end there. She need to move on and let go of Raghav.

Paige S
June 03, 13:51

Agree
℘ɧơɛŋıҳ
June 03, 14:28

It was very old school for Raghav to claim a second wife the way he did .
I’ve only read of multiple wives in Hinduism in the Ramayan .
Below , in my reply to you , I said that I want to see both Kalpi and Pakhi adopting more progressive thinking .

” If both Kalpi and Pakhi were to unite and tell Raghav that enough was enough , that he needs to man up and make it right with both of them , then we would see the paradigm shift , that is so desperately needed on this show . “
devya
June 03, 17:57

Kris,my dear pakhi was ALWAYS pampered when growing up n always had whatever she wanted n it was her heart desire to get raghav she also have it. Do u think she would ever think of walking out. No,no my dear she is as stubborn as KAMLA she really inherited that trait from kamla..n moreover she is having encouraging WORDS from mummyji n kamla that the marriage WILL be good. So she is holding on WITH the expectation that raghav will love her one day…She is still living in the fantasy world ,she is not coming out if that shell…She needs a really rude awakening..

Kris

June 03, 13:40 Reply

Suni, my comment yesterday about Kalpi going off to boarding school. Yes money paid for it, the hard earned money of Kamla,
But did Kalpi ask for that? All she wanted was her mother’s love and attention. She would have done just as good in a public school as she did in the boarding school. She did not want to go away from Kamla, but instead Kamla choose to send her away from herself while she showered physical love and attention on Paakhi.
she is still doing that.
Giving someone money to do something and actually giving that person a hug or being there physically, two different things altogether.
Raghav was in boarding school and did not have anyone. He had the money but no one to love him. It’s seemed the same with Kalpi, Kamla paid for the boarding school but she did not have her mother father and brother with her.

Miss Unbelievable
June 03, 13:43

i personally think Kamla send Kalpi to boarding school because of what Nettu did

she emotionally blackmailed Kalpi to work as a slave and mistreated her in order to tortture both mother and daughter

kamla was only trying to protect kalpi from nettu’s poision
Kris
June 03, 13:49

But Kalpi was only a child, she could not understand why Kamla was doing what she was doing, the child was intelligent enough for Kamla to explain all that to her, but she simply pushed her away.
The manner in which she did it, seemed like she did not want Kalpi around her.
She could have kept her with her also, if Neetu wanted she could have gotten to Kalpi in the boarding school also.
℘ɧơɛŋıҳ
June 03, 14:16

I agree with you MU .
Subliminally Kamla’s intention towards Kalpi aren’t bad ; she could use more tact and less passion in her expressions .
℘ɧơɛŋıҳ
June 03, 14:22

Kamla loves Kalpi , she never wanted her daughter to face the struggles that she herself had to face hence the emphasis on Kalpi getting a sound education .

teejay

June 03, 13:31 Reply

By the way coud it be possible that Pakhi is realy Kamla’s daughter may they gotexchanged at birth at the hospital how come they share the same birthday

NIRVANA

June 03, 13:10 Reply

Kamla is like an itch you can’t scratch. She’s so entrenched in her ways and beliefs that she can’t see beyond them.
She knows that Raghav married Pakhi for revenge, he doesn’t love her but wants her parents to suffer through her suffering. The right thing for her to do is advise Pakhi to leave, but she won’t do that. She believes that Pakhi can make the marriage work, Pakhi loves Raghav, she has to win him over. There’s no getting Kamla to see the bigger picture.

Pakhi is a modern, educated woman, why can’t she see the futility of her marriage and opt out. She’s not thinking of anyone else but herself. She loves Raghav, they are married so she’ll have to win him over. Her coach and cheerleader for this is Kamla ma (aka Pakhi’s fan/devotee/mentor/). Pakhi is not some rural, uneducated child bride that will cause her whole family to die of hunger if she left her husband.

Kalpi running away to another country won’t necessarily make her problems go away. To be a stronger individual, one has to meet the giant face to face and stare him in the eye.

Paige S
June 03, 13:53

Quite right. I too have been saying the same thing
℘ɧơɛŋıҳ
June 03, 14:11

Nirvana , who gave life to Pakhi’s hopes of being with Raghav ?
Was it really Kamla or was it Raghav himself ??
Pakhi professed herself to be in love with Raghav long ago , though it was one sided , she was misled by the ring scene , into believing that she had a chance . She had confessed her love for Raghav to Kamla , which is something that Kalpi hadn’t done . I understand that Kalpi held fear of her mother’s reaction .
However , Raghav is the one who allowed Pakhi’s dreams to come alive when he married her .
He showed her love a way . It’s very hard for love to stop hoping . It makes fools of even very wise folks .
If we are encouraging Kalpi to not give up on her love with Raghav , although he wants to remain married for a year , then maybe Pakhi has reasons to hope also . One girl loves a married man and the other is married to a man who doesn’t love her .
M@hi
June 03, 14:21

While I agree with most that you said I don’t see Kalpi migrating is running away. Kalpi needs to move away from all this because she has been stifled by Kamla most of her life. Now its high time that girl picks up the pieces of her shattered life. The way I see it…if Kalpi stays there Kamla will further push Kalpi into darkness. Today like most other days Kamla let us know that Pakhi’s happiness is much more important that Kalpi’s. Look at how she’s ignoring Kalpi. Kalpi doesn’t deserve that from her. As long as Kalpi does what Kamla wants all is well. When Kalpi doesn’t do as she wants she gets labelled as bad. Kalpi fell in love with Raghav and she was punished for it by Kamla not giving her blessings at first. What was her fault in that…her fault was that Pakhi wants Raghav so Kalpi must not love Raghav…how pathetic.
M@hi
June 03, 14:23

Exactly Phoenix. Kamla is the one giving Kalpi assurance that all will be well with her and Raghav. Look at what she said to her today even after knowing what transpired earlier. Kris explained it well.
℘ɧơɛŋıҳ
June 03, 14:45

Mahi 🙂 , I think you misread my comment .
I’m saying that Raghav is the one who fueled Pakhi’s ambition of being with him by marrying her .
M@hi
June 03, 15:04

@Phoenix: Yes lol. I misread your comment. I’m thinking that it was Kamla from the beginning that give her false hopes.

mujahid

June 03, 13:06 Reply

guys.please read my comment n give ur view about that. Here i think that cvs r making just drama to get trp they dont leave to unite rag n kalpi becoz in indian culture marriage is permanent they finaly showd that raghav n paki hapily livd in their mariage.here the unlucky child is kalpi she nevr got mothers love r raghavs love in her life.in final kalpi move on in her life n became sucesful woman n remain unmarid like radha in mahabharath.

M@hi
June 03, 14:26

I’m not sure what to gather because in these soaps anything is possible. I have no idea what really is in the director’s mind. It seems as though when her fans push for one thing she does the opposite.
Kris
June 03, 14:29

Of course that’s what the creatives are good for
creating dramas, twists and turns, and we fools suck it up greedily 😀
All they want at the end of the day is the $$$$$$$$$$

Pani

June 03, 12:55 Reply

Kamla’s love for her child is weirdness itself BUT who will indeed pray for her daughter and a married man?!

Raghav u slowly gettin on my nerves. You saw how upset your lovers mom was n u know the pressure she ll be getting from home and the society then u send her more sindoor?! Stop your selfish conservation n territorialization of Kalpi and think abt her what she has to endure while u dwell in urn revenge.

Kalpi. WAKE UP!! This ain’t all life has to offer. You wanna wait for him? Great! Go do that elsewhere. You are going crazy asking your mom of all people to pray that u should be with a married man. If he really loves you he ll come for you only when he is single and not indulge u in adulterous longing. Wake up!

Pakhi true Kamla as your cheerleader is boosting u but like someone rightly said didn’t this guy tell you he loves someone else?! You are so naive u hurt the eyes to watch. The truth is what Kamla is saying is what u want to hear. I bet if she told you to back out you won’t find it funny.

Vitthal is there still any hope that you can be the man of that house?

Oufff EMA really thought u d be different.

Miss Unbelievable
June 03, 13:19

Pani lets go on strike i totally agree with you

rhagav is being selfish its like he’s not getting it

love is not blind to your lover’s pain and he is being that way

are we expecting the mangalsutra in the next gift?
M@hi
June 03, 14:29

I agree that Raghav needs to pull himself up. Today when he sent that gift I was like Raghav did you forget that you’re not just lovers anymore. He put himself in a whole lot of mess and isn’t doing anything to better this. How can he just go home and be happy knowing Kamla was behaving all crazy at the temple.
℘ɧơɛŋıҳ
June 03, 14:39

Agree with you Pani
devya
June 03, 17:36

Pani, u r right raghav is also an emotional blackmailer..his message of committing suicide had KALPI running to save his life…all these people r selfish n HEARTLESS HUMAN.THEY r only thinking of achieving their goal by inappropriately using suicide to draw sympathy n attention.
℘ℏöḙn̛i̵ҳ
June 03, 17:41

I totally agree with you Devya . ..
Pani
June 03, 19:09

MU i am with u whenever u want us to commence the strike;u cracked me up with the mangalsutra bit though lol!
Mahi Raghav indeed really needs to get his act right.
Devya you have surmised it all. we are dealing here with a bunch of selfish people and its so sad raghav has joined the list.
however Kalpi needs to wake up.

tima

June 03, 12:22 Reply

Kamla your real daughter is pakhi not kapi. Let people the truth.

Abisola
June 03, 13:14

By God, paakhi is kamla’s daughter not kalpi plus, kamla keep saying she instilled values in kalpana, what Values? If I remembered the detailed script, kamla never cared for kalpi, she always come 2nd in her thought. Paakhi has always come first for kamla, so for me, it will be so stupid of kalpana, to refuse to recognise her marriage with Raghav! Kamla, can decide to commit suicide, that’s her problem. We want kalpana and raghav together, no matter What!
M@hi
June 03, 14:36

Yes! We want them together but in a sensible way. I have my doubts as well. If its true that Kalpi isn’t her daughter then it won’t go down well with Vitthal and it would mean that Kamla is EXTREMELY SELFISH to deprive Kalpi from her family, opportunity etc.

krish

June 03, 11:53 Reply

kalpi should become strong.raghav has taken big risk when gauri will know about neetu’s intention about divorce of pakhi & raghav
.she will be on kamalas side too .they will definitely try to put misunderstanding between them.when gauri tell kamala that she got her memory back. she told her god always here to my prayers now she want to pray for pakhi again.let see how raghav takes his revenge.

shona91

June 03, 11:48 Reply

I’M SO FINISH WITH THIS what THE F£%k i mean why cv want to make us feel like kalpi is the negative person here…. I DON’Tget this shaddi walli thing did i want ragna to get married … SURE but NOT THAT way it’s so wrong i FEEL WRONG FOR ONE PERSON …. and this PERSON is KALPI… she is desperate sooo desperate that she can do anything to get the one she love kya gulty hai unski the negative person here ARE KAMLA and Gauri…. I’m so upset with these women and feel so proud to have my mom with me when i saw these women face such ungreatful mother kamla always protect paki but what for kalpi; did kamla ek bar ask hersel that what if kalpi is not that strong what if she just want to be trully happpywith the one shelove GOD i feelso sorry but i can’t blame kalpi all kamla and gauri ki fault hai and of course stupid cvs

℘ɧơɛŋıҳ
June 03, 14:43

Yes Kalpi is an innocent victim in all this .

Miss Unbelievable

June 03, 11:21 Reply

i cant bother to comment about these persons

from my view if a girl asked me to pray for her and a married man’s life together that would be my reaction

what kamla needs to see is that Rhgav actually divorces Pakhi then she will begin to actually change until Rhagav is single and not married anymore and not the heartbreaking vicious person but a repented man on the path of right Kamla will actually change

so in my thoughts Rhagav needs to sort himself out first before he comes begging to Kalpi

and to give sindoor to Kalpi is like im eating my cake and having it. He is married to one by heart and married to the other by legalities.

Im upset with Rhagav and Kamla

Their thinking is somewhat right but their actions are so messed up in proving it

EMA A STRESS ME!!!

BLOOD PRESSURE A GO UP!!!

℘ℏöḙn̛i̵ҳ
June 03, 11:27

Well said 🙂 , and chill girl , no serial ever stresses me , I leave that for reality to try to do 😀 . ..

Paige S

June 03, 11:19 Reply

Hi guys…I have to be out for while. I will be online again after 1pm. Will read up on all the comments I missed and will comment thereafter. See you in while. 🙂

Hopefully, when I return, I will have the antidote against Kamla getting on my last nerves!

tima

June 03, 11:18 Reply

Kalpi is not kamla maa daughter but pakhi I think she exchange baby. If not she will want the best for her not for pakhi. She save pakhi live once instead of kalpi. Always keeping eye on pakhi.

skd

June 03, 11:13 Reply

Raghav did tel Pokie that he luvs Kalpi. Wat does she need now? A written stmt? I guess so as she is portrayed 2 b dumb. Wat 2 do once dumb always dumb. No inteligent person wil remain in a relationship which is based on hate n revenge. She does nt have any self respect n even worthy 2 b called a friend as she knows abt kalpi n raghav being in luv. Wat type of woman she is? A clingy opportunist!!

℘ℏöḙn̛i̵ҳ
June 03, 11:23

Pakhi is bonded to Raghav through marriage and Kalpi through love .
Both women have been cheated out of having a whole and were made to be satisfied with just half .
I agree that Pakhi should get some sense of self worth and leave ; I will add that Kalpi should also have had some pride , and not allowed herself to be made into a man’s mistress .
Pakhi really can’t think for herself , therefore Kamla can easily influence her , but this works to Raghav’s advantage , because his revenge plan is dependent on Pakhi remaining this naive .

Kris

June 03, 10:52 Reply

Kamla is misleading Paakhi, she is setting Paakhi up for major heartbreak and a life of ruin in the future.
She knows exactly what’s gonna happen. So why is she giving Paakhi false h ope???
She is doing wrong by both the girls.
What is Kamla’s agenda, what is she up to???
She is confusing herself.
Man she can’t be that dense and clueless one time so.
She is ruining both girls’ lives.
Come on Kamla, Paakhi will never be happy with RaGhav, Raghav will not be happy with PAaakhi, or without Kalpi, Kalpi will not be happy without Raghav.
At least save Paakhi from ruin and let Raghav and Kalpi be happy in the long run.
Advise Pakhi to leave Raghav. If Gaurie wants Paakhi to stay married to Raghav to extract revenge, then it is best she get out of that situation.
YOu will not let your daughter enter into a burning building knowing fully well she might get burnt to death. This is what Kamla is doing to Paakhi.
Now she is not only being unfair to Kalpi but to Paakho.

Paige S
June 03, 11:13

Exactly Kris…everyone has a chance to be happy and have this matter resolved. but no one is taking any steps. Raghav is trying. Kamla and others are just making everyone miserable.

And look at this Kamla. “I will not pray for this relationship”. Same thing she did whenever Kalpi wanted her to bless her “she steps back”. But ohhh how she fawns over Paaki. This woman gets to me more than a rash. During the night she is lamenting how she never gives Kalpi happiness and in the morning, she’s back to the same tune of never giving the girl happiness.
℘ℏöḙn̛i̵ҳ
June 03, 11:16

Kris , you know as well as I do , that Hindu women are thought to ” stick it out ” , no matter what happens with their husbands they should remain by their side .
What we should have been witnessing here is the old school mentality versus new school .
Pakhi should have realised , for her own self , that she deserves better than what she has been given .
If both Kalpi and Pakhi were to unite and tell Raghav that enough was enough , that he needs to man up and make it right with both of them , then we would see the paradigm shift , that is so desperately needed on this show .
devya
June 03, 18:33

Kris,correctly SAID,the 3 emotional blackmailers r making the lives of others so miserable..n poor kalpi the victim have to face all struggle ,disappointment n hurt by herself no one to comfort her. While her mother is giving words of HOPE n assurance to pakhi n dumb pakhi who cannot THINK for herself is drowned by KAMLA n mummyji encouragement. Thinking the inevitable will happen.

MP

June 03, 10:51 Reply

whghav, it’s always Pakhi for hery can’t Kamla ever be happy for Kalp!? she knows how much Kalpi loves Ra

Teejay

June 03, 10:41 Reply

Eish!!!!! I don’t know what to make of this episode. So the lies have began. On the one hand is Kamla lying to Vithal about what happened at the Temple on the other hand is Raghav is lying to his mother and misleading Pakhi in the process again. And Pakhi like a fool she is, is happy about it without fully knowing what has made Raghav Happy. Raghav is happy that he was able to meet Kalpi and Kalpi has agreed to wait for him for a year. However the sad part is that Kamla is still being stubborn and hurting Kalpi by refusing to Pray for her and Raghav.Why cant you pray for ur daughter Kamla, Remember Kamla you asked God for guidance on what to do and God showed you that Kalpi was meant to be with Raghav and not Pakhi so how come you have forgeotten your prayer and now you are fighting against what you prayed for ? However Raghav’s gift to Kalpi is indicating that he wants Kalpi to continue wearing sindoor as the symbol of their love I wonder how Kamla will react when she gets know about this.

℘ℏöḙn̛i̵ҳ
June 03, 10:49

Kamla is being like Gaurie . She wants her own way .
I feel like screaming . ..
RUN KALPI !!!
RUN LIKE FOREST GUMP !!!
Kris
June 03, 10:53

Yea Suni, so true.
Kris
June 03, 10:54

Teejay hope she does not find out, some things are best left a secret from her.
Paige S
June 03, 11:14

Phoenix…my dear…. 🙂 I so agree with you here
Teejay
June 03, 12:28

I feel that Pakhi needs to be set a straight to understand that she is fighting a losing battle
M@hi
June 03, 14:40

Exactly Teejay. Shouldn’t Pakhi realise his happiness isn’t because of her. Like what about her will make Raghav happy when he’s totally in love with someone else.

anonymous

June 03, 10:33 Reply

I agree with m@hi’s comment about kalpi leaving raghav and what she should say. I didn’t want the story to turn out like this and its making kalpi look like the “bad” person, bcoz you wouldn’t think that she would want to be the other “wife”, he’s married already. It’s all raghav’s fault he shouldnt have put the sindoor on her head and give her this hope. I wanted the story to be that kalpi moves away and starts her own business adn accomplishes her dreams, now shes just being stupid and I understand she can’t stop loving raghav but please don’t be that person. EMA writers please change this track. And are hindus allowed to have more than one wife at the same time?

Miss Unbelievable
June 03, 10:36

for some reason i have already seen 3 serials with a man having more thaan one wife

according to what ive read if your wife cant bear you a son you are permitted to get a second wife

but ive only seen them married to one person

times are changing polygamy is dying
℘ℏöḙn̛i̵ҳ
June 03, 10:44

But , MU dear , in what century were those serials 😀 ??
The Hindu act prohibits a second marriage without a divorce .
There is another option available , which is for the man to convert to Islam .
Therefore through the apostasy of Hinduism .
℘ℏöḙn̛i̵ҳ
June 03, 10:46

MU a law was recently passed in Kenya , which allows a man to wed for a second time , without the consent of his first wife .
Miss Unbelievable
June 03, 10:48

oh 😮

no wonder why Michelle wont let Obama return to Kenya
℘ℏöḙn̛i̵ҳ
June 03, 10:50

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!! 😆

M@hi

June 03, 10:32 Reply

Anyone ever watched Friends? There’s an episode where Feebie was playing on a pin ball machine and she lost. She started shaking her head and screamed expletives which of course was muted for the viewers. I picture a lot of EMA fans like this today because of Kamla lol. Maybe some fans will substitute
expletives for harsh words lol.

Mehak
June 03, 10:40

yep ur absolutely right!!
℘ℏöḙn̛i̵ҳ
June 03, 10:40

Lol 🙂 , I think the mere mention of the name Kamla brings forth that reaction :D. .
I’ve watched repeats of repeats of Friends , now I’m loving The Big Bang Theory .
Kris
June 03, 10:57

lol 😀 Mahi, so true,
Also remember when she was running in the park for exercise she did not care too hoots about who said what about the way she ran.
I can just picture Kalpi running away from Kamla and Raghav like that
M@hi
June 03, 14:43

I like The Big Bang Theory as well.

@Kris: Yes I remembered that episode and I’m picturing Kalpi like that…very funny picture in my head right now 😀
℘ɧơɛŋıҳ
June 03, 14:47

Leonard proposed to Penny .
I don’t like that dweeb Leonard ,Penny could do so much better I think . 🙂 ..

M@hi

June 03, 10:20 Reply

Waiting to see if he mentions what he did at the temple.

M@hi

June 03, 10:19 Reply

Oh boy. Raghav we know you don’t want to hurt Pakhi but Neetu and Sahil but your actions would just encourage Pakhi.

Miss Unbelievable
June 03, 10:22

and the confusion continues

my God maybe if Rhagav used civility with Pakhi and explain to her again

Look Pakhi i dont love you. I love Kalpi. Im going to divorce you soon Im sorry you had to be dragged into this but bare with it for a while. Im only kind to you because of Kamla Maa.
M@hi
June 03, 10:25

Yes the confusion continues. The only thing that would be nice is to see Kalpi at the airport leaving with a shocked Raghav. He words before she leaves should be “Raghav, when you make me a priority in your life I’ll make myself available. If You can’t then move on in your life and accept your marriage. I need to move away from all this”.
Miss Unbelievable
June 03, 10:33

that would the besr line that the cvs in history came up with

let Rhagav deal with revenge and let Kalpi deal with her life

when they sort that out they can see each other equally
℘ℏöḙn̛i̵ҳ
June 03, 10:38

Love that thought Mahi 😀 . ..
Teejay
June 03, 10:45

I agree Raghav needs to be straight with Pakhi otherwise this confusion will lead to another disappointment for Kalpi as usual
Kris
June 03, 10:58

I agree Mahi

Ek Mutthi Aasman 3rd June 2014 Written Update

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